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Corrie Street 6 May 2018

Relations

A lot of good stuff this week. Phelan, of course. And especially the reintroduction of Seb’s mother. David unravelling. But my favourite scene was Roy offering to diagram Connor kinship for Jenny. To jenny asks how are they relatedshow the relationship of those having relations, so to speak.

Monday, the nice dinner party at Michelle and Robert’s ended abruptly. Michelle saw Ali and Carla canoodling in the hallway. Her son and her best friend, sister-in-law and cousin. So she exploded at them. Everyone else scuttled off quickly.

roy says i can draw it out for youIn the safety of the Rovers, Jenny said “how are they related again?” Roy said the words so welcome to the ears of genealogy researchers. “I’ve got a paper and pencil, I can draw it out for you.” But Robert stopped him. “I don’t think it’s quite the time, Roy.” Oh Robert, of course it’s the time. Let’s see it so I don’t have to do it myself.

robert says not quite the timeI was trying to remember how Carla and Ali are related when Jenny asked Roy the question. So, with Robert cutting him off, I got out my pencil and paper and drew the family tree. Michelle’s dad Barry and Carla’s dad Johnny are first cousins, according to ITV. So here is the chart that Roy would have made, given half a chance.

connor family tree by d stewart - corrie relations(Whether you call Carla and Ali second cousins once removed or third cousins is discussed on the Coronation Street Blog. Look in the comments.)

In short, Carla is both cousin and aunt to Ali. She is his 2nd cousin once removed through Johnny, her bio-dad. Through her late husband Paul, Michelle’s brother, Carla is Ali’s aunt by marriage.

There’s an ick factor there, but they didn’t grow up knowing they were family. Ali is Michelle’s bio-kid but she didn’t raise him. Carla is jenny asks what was for dinnerthe child of a long-kept secret affair between her mother and Johnny. She grew up thinking of another man as her father. So maybe that’s the greatest ick factor – all these people carrying on with each other not knowing that they’re related. Having relations with my relations – could be a country and western song.

Corrie Street 29 Apr. 2018

Reading

Sitting in comfortable chairs, reading. A pleasant, relaxing break at the end of a busy day. That was the case for Carla and Roy, and me, on Tuesday. Busy day? More like busy week on the Street. So how nice to just chill for a bit.carla and roy reading

Such moments of downtime, of pure nothingness, have become rare enough on Coronation Street to be noteworthy. Maybe Carla and Roy are now among the very few people we see doing essentially nothing.

Well, not nothing. Carla was reading her trashy romance novel. Roy was learning about the process of turning pig iron into wrought iron and the effect of that development in the Industrial Revolution.

Carla was also thinking about the mess she’s getting herself into. Wanting to talk to Roy about it, but not wanting to tell him any carla-talks-about-her-book-and-lifedetails. She wanted him to reassure her. Just tell her she’s “doing the right thing”. So he did. He realized she did not want to discuss what it is she’s doing. She didn’t want to analyze it with him. She just wanted his support. He’s learned a lot from Carla, and from Hayley. He did as she asked, then went back to his book. Both were content.

The elements on Carla’s ongoing story with Ali were in that little roy-asks-what-she-is-talking-aboutscene. That is the situation she wanted reassurance on. What to do about her sleeping with her best friend’s son. She knows it’s best to end it. It’s not a situation that is going to end well. She knows that is what Roy would tell her, so she doesn’t tell him. She doesn’t need to. But she needs to feel his friendship and strength behind her.

carla-looks-at-roy-as-he-readsSo it wasn’t simply a scene – or a conversation – about nothing. It wasn’t played for laughs. It was just a nice breather, with things thought about, even discussed without words. But done in a quiet way in a quiet space. A small moment of peace before climbing back on the roller-coaster. For Carla and Roy, yes, but also for all of us getting tired on the ride along.

Below is a link to the book by Christian Wolmar that Roy was reading.  Unfortunately, Carla’s book – The Tempted House by Edwina Haverson – seems to not exist.

Corrie Street 14 Jan. 2018

Team Acts

Carla and Roy. Roy and Brian. Carla, Roy and Brian. Maybe add Cathy to any or all of these team acts. Friday, all four were in Roy’s kitchen. It was the moving of Brian out and Carla in.brian-proposes-toast-to-roy team acts

All week Roy and Brian were dithering, each wanting to tell the other that it was time for Brian to move on. Brian wants to move, with Cathy, into the flat that he evidently still owns. Roy wants Carla carla with cup of teato move in with him, platonically of course, so that he can take care of her. But neither Roy nor Brian knew how to bring the topic up to the other. Both assumed that the other wanted their arrangement to continue.

Finally, it got sorted. But it took a lot of scenes between the various duos before that happened. I enjoyed every one of them.

Carla and Roy – characters and actors – are so comfortable with each other. Theirs is an odd friendship but I believe it. It came out of Carla’s friendship with Hayley – also odd but believable. After her death, Carla and Roy came to rely on each other a lot and their friendship has matured into deep and comfortable affection for each other.brian-grabs-council-coaster

Brian and Roy? Can’t really say Roy likes Brian but he tolerates him, maybe is amused by him. Certainly, I think he recognizes Brian as another odd duck and maybe makes allowances for him. Brian has intellectual curiousity so I think Roy would find conversation with him to be enjoyable. When he isn’t being irritating, of course. And they – characters and actors – are comfortable with each other.cathy-roy-carla team acts

Carla and Brian don’t have a lot of history, but they share familiarity with Roy and his apartment. So maybe the three of them will hang out now. And Cathy. While she doesn’t have a lot of history with Carla, she fits well with the two men. So maybe with Carla too. Based on the scenes with all four this week, I’m looking forward to their continued team acts.

Corrie Street 24 Dec. 2017

Pelznickel

Roy Cropper was a complete flop as the community centre Santa – or Roy as PelznickelPelznickel as he chose to costume himself. The scenes of him in the café, for me, were also a complete flop. Indeed, I found it excruciating to watch. Poor David Neilson, having to take part in that travesty of “quirky Roy”.

“Have Roy do something odd with the idea of Santa Claus” you could almost hear someone say. Then somehow the job was given to someone who has never actually seen Roy in action before. And this is what they came up with.line-up-for-santa

So far over the top that it was embarrassing. Yes, Roy might go for a more folkloric representation of St. Nicholas. But taking it that far, and persisting in handing out fruit to children instead of candy and presents? No, he understands kids very well. Also he is a successful businessman and thus he knows the customer must be satisfied. Even Yasmeen has enough sense to know this is wrong.

yasmeen-hands-orange-to-liamWhether Roy has questions about the origins and purposes of the red-suited ho-ho-ho happy Santa or not, he would find a happy medium. He’d give kids a bit of history perhaps. Then he would give them the gifts or candy they expected, along with some fruit.

Maria and Liam perhaps reacted realistically, certainly as they needed to react in order to have the “humour” of the situation maria complains about pelznickelpointed out. Maria’s snotty behaviour (“I want my money back!”) did nothing to endear her to me. Nor Liam’s, but he has the excuse of being a kid. By the time the unknown mother and her brat were yelling about horrible Santa, I was wishing Pelznickel would haul out that bunch of sticks and use them!

Roy as Pelznickel wasn’t the only horrifying moment in Monday’s grandfathers-4-justiceepisodes. Norris in a Batman suit with a placard on the roof of the factory. Oh good Lord! Same person must have said “Have Norris do something funny”. The person who has also never watched Norris before came up with this. Somehow, these scenes made it through the writing chain and actually got filmed. If anyone said “hey, this stuff isn’t in character,” evidently nobody listened.norris-on-factory-roof

I always look forward to the Christmas episodes of Coronation Street. They always push the boat out a bit with décor, a bit of nostalgia, and a lot of drama. This year, I’m dreading it. Watching over the past couple months – since soon after the sixth episode started – has felt like work. And this week was just too awful for words.

Good moments? Tracy’s ‘get well from testicular surgery’ cactus to Robert. Well done, too, get-well-cactusthat Michelle didn’t find it funny at all. Also Jude and Mary’s talks about the whys of Jude’s origins, especially the one on Wednesday. Jude’s blow-up at Mary on Monday was good too, but was overshadowed by being interspliced with the Pelznickel and Batman nightmares.

Corrie Street 6 Aug. 2017

The Receipt

Brian has added another string to his bow, another arrow to his quiver. He is now a Litter Enforcement Officer. Hands on, not just behind a desk, that’s our Brian. He snags a receipt dropped on the brian-grabs-box-with-grabberstreet. Hmm, peruses its details – a salt and pepper mill.

Later, at Roy’s Rolls and needing sustenance, he spies on the counter a box for a salt and pepper mill. Aha! That’s Roy caught redhanded. Roy is grateful that Brian found the receipt he lost. He needs it for his VAT records. But Brian is having none of the accidental loss story. It was littering and there’s a fine for that. Oh, and I’ll have a butterfly bun when you’re ready.

brian refuses to hand over receiptBrian is such a silly, silly man. Roy is as far from silly as is possible to be. The two of them together are silliness gold. This little scene brings out the best in them, I think, both in the moment and in the character of them both.

To be in conflict with Roy Cropper over littering is the most absurd thing imaginable. The man sweeps and washes his front step and pavement and probably would like to clean all the way down the street. Because of his obsessive tendencies and his principles, he is the last man on earth who would litter.

brian-writes-out-fine But the rules are the rules, says Brian. He is probably so pleased to actually have the chance to fill out one of his forms in his little fine book that he doesn’t even attempt to actually think about what he’s doing, and to whom he’s doing it.

Aside from his personal stake as Roy’s tenant, there is also simply the fact of Roy. Kirk and Chesney point that out to Brian. It’s Roy, the neatest man in Weatherfield!kirk-and-ches-watch-brian-and-roy

I’ve liked this story since it started. A roving Brian, armed with megaphone, a grabber and the authority to issue fines. All his Christmases have come at once. I especially like the grabber. It is not an efficient picker-upper of litter. It doesn’t have the fine control needed for thin items like paper. A stick with a pointed metal end is what street and park cleaning crews actually use. Much easier and more efficient.

A grabber is used by elderly or injured people for objects too high to reach without climbing or too low if you can’t bend over. I like to and-a-butterfly-bunthink that Brian’s tool of his trade came from a city council official who had one unused at home. With it and a megaphone that every council office would have in its storage closet, it’s an inexpensive way of keeping Brian, the Tsar/Czar of Recycling out of the office and away from employees who are actually trying to work.

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Corrie Street 15 Jan. 2017

Christmas Vigil

Amid the turkey dinners, Christmas crackers, laughter and caroling, an outdoor vigil on Tuesday brought a belated Christmas tear to my eye.Christmas vigil by Roy, Brian and NorrisNorris, Roy and Brian camp out in Dev’s back yard. Norris wants to see Mary, and Roy and Brian join him in solidarity. Mary is furious at Norris. She refused to join them for Christmas dinner at the café. So if the mountain won’t come to Muhammad – Norris will go to Mary. And he has no intention of leaving, he tells her through the closed door.

Roy tells Norris he will bring him provisions. He does that, and he also brings himself and a probably unwilling Brian. Christmas dinner was on the table at the café. Brian was happily digging in, filling his plate. He probably had time to get a few mouthfuls in before Roy dragged him away. But even Brian knows when something is more Norris talks about what Mary means to himimportant than food and he joins the vigil for Mary without grumbling.

To fill the time, and explain to Roy and Brian why they’re sitting outside in the cold, Norris tells them what Mary means to him.

“I know I have a caustic manner. People say I sit in judgement. Yeah, I often do. It’s safer, isn’t it. To watch from the touch line rather than get involved in the field of play.

Ah, but not Mary. She lives. She gets knocked down, sometimes trampled on. But she always gets back up. She never pulls on a protective shell. She goes out into the world. As innocent as a newborn baby. I think she’s one of the bravest people I know.”shot of backyard with roy brian and norris

Mary hears what he says and her heart melts. So does mine, so does everyone’s I should think.

Christmas dinner is back on at Roy’s Rolls, with all four friends partaking. Then there’s an even happier ending. Gemma’s online plea for Mary starts to smileMary’s son found its mark. Jude saw it and comes to the café door. He meets his mother.

However, the bad thing to come out of all this is that he is going to take her away with him: to South Africa! But no, please, she can’t go. Like the twins said to her later, we’re your family, Mary.

Corrie Street 1 Jan. 2017

The Dictaphone

What about what Roy said on the dictaphone? He and Cathy are about to say their wedding vows. She hardly looked like a carefree bride on the happiest day of her life as she walked down the aisle. But that can be ascribed to nervousness. If you didn’t witness what we, the viewers, did in the parking lot.roy watches cathy walk down aisle

Cathy pulled out her dictaphone to go over her vows one more time. She heard what else had recorded on it. Roy telling Brian and Tyrone that he may not want to marry Cathy, but he had given her his word so he would do so.

What do you do then? There is no time to think it over or talk to Roy about what he says or how he feels. The minister, guests and groom are inside, awaiting the bride. Cathy can’t really call a ‘time-out.’cathy interrupts minister as vows begin

She walks past all the smiling faces to the altar. Then as the minister begins, she tells Roy and all what she heard on the tape. She asks the minister to get rid of everybody so she and Roy can talk.

cathy tells roy what she heard on the dictaphoneTheirs is not the first Weatherfield wedding to come to a screeching halt at the altar. The ministers likely pull out their evacuation and containment plans every time they get a booking from someone resident on or near Coronation Street.

Cathy and Roy’s abrupt end to the scheduled ceremony was certainly more civil than others have been. Compare it to Peter giving Leanne divorce papers at the altar during the reaffirmation of their vows. Or, roy and guests are astoundedmore recently, Nick going through with his marriage to Carla, only to call an end to it during the reception. The prize for the best ever altar fight still has to be Karen and Steve McDonald’s second wedding.

Compared to those, Cathy and Roy’s cancelled wedding was the model of decorum. Cathy stated the facts of Roy’s feelings as she had heard them on the dictaphone. She also got her digs in at Tyrone and Brian (“Usain Bolt, there”), the two who forced the questioning of the marriage.roy and cathy look around church

Roy did not disagree with her. After the people had been cleared out, he and Cathy sat in a pew and discussed what had happened, what hadn’t happened and what they would do next. All very civilized. We’ll see what happens next.

roy and cathy sit in silenceFor me, I hope they try again. Cathy is not Hayley, and her relationship with Roy is not the same. But that doesn’t mean it is not equally valid and good for both of them. Will Roy see that?

Corrie Street 4 Dec 2016

Recycling Czar or Tsar

Brian Packham is back. A question he has for Roy: is it Czar or Tsar? brian explains czar or tsar quandaryRoy is flummoxed, and that’s a rare sight. He’s rarely had occasion to spell it, but thinks either spelling is acceptable. Of course, I googled it. Roy is right, and there are many lengthy discussion threads on the origins and usage of each. (My spellcheck chooses Tsar.)brian-and-roy-at-cafe-table

Brian is back without Julie, but with ambition to take a prominent place in the Weatherfield Council bureaucracy. At the moment he’s the Environmental Health Officer. But his aim is to revolutionize the city’s recycling programmes. Hence his dilemma: should his stationery say Recycling Czar or Tsar?

Prior to discussing the nitty-gritty of his title, Brian was flummoxed roy-with-lipstick-kisswhen he met Cathy. He expected to see Roy still single and grieving Hayley’s death. So he was astounded when a woman emerged from Roy’s flat and planted a kiss on his cheek.

Brian astutely picked up on Roy’s ambivalence about marrying Cathy. He suggested Roy ask himself why he wants to marry. Then he gave some good advice about navigating the wedding itself. It’s cathy-with-wedding-countdown-clockfor the bride, he said, not the groom. So let her have the disco, the pink wedding cake, even the wedding count-down clock – whatever makes her dream day. You focus on the groom’s speech, he told Roy. Ever the teacher, Brian later peeked to see how the assignment was going. Not well, he saw, so he gave suggestions for improvement.

The good and bad elsewhere

The problem with Tuesday’s episode was with the scenes bracketing michael-at-building-site-gateBrian’s. Michael and Anna were doing things that made no sense in terms of character history. Michael going to Phelan’s building site alone to check it out. Foolish, but maybe believable. But Anna asking Phelan to come to her place? Without telling anyone or having backup? It wouldn’t happen, not after the last time she did that. I saw, ok, it’s a way to get to the plot culmination. But clunky! They might not have jarred so much if they anna-lets-phelan-in-doorhadn’t been next to the smoothness of Brian’s scenes.

There were other great moments this week. Tracy and Peter after she says Daniel is just like Ken – a look that says ‘we’re out of the will!’ Vinny’s neighbour lady, played by Jacqueline Pilton. And Phelan watching Michael die, telling him about watching a rabbit slowly die after he had injured it.

Corrie Street Oct. 18/15

Live

live episode caddie-by-roversFrom the opening credits right through to the 1953 Cadillac Eldorado tooling down the cobbles, the live episode was fabulous. Quiet drama with Roy and Cathy balanced high drama with the younger Platts and Callum.

My only criticism? I’d have liked to have more time with each of the many events going on. Individual things, like Craig nervous about a first date that, sadly, didn’t happen. And big events, like two lavish parties.

live episode orient-express-cafeA birthday party for Roy at the café had a beautifully done Orient Express theme. And the clothes! Everyone looked absolutely fabulous. And a huge going-away party at the Rovers for Lloyd.

anna-two-glasses-champagneThe two parties merged. Gary decided to go teetotal so passed his drinks to Anna. Her two-handed drinking led to words with Sally and she blabbed what she’d overheard about Sally kissing Kevin. Tim stormed off.

Roy swerved both parties because he had spent the earlier part of the day with Cathy – in Blackpool. She didn’t know its significance. She talked about wanting to dance at the Ballroom. Just like Hayley. Cathy wanted him to go wading. Just like Hayley.

Alone in his flat, he displaced his distress with complaints to the roy-opens-cake-boxWeatherfield bus service. Carla confronted him, talked sense and sent him off with Rita’s rum babas to catch Cathy. The bus schedule was thrown off again, with a well-timed flat, so he and Cathy could sort out their feelings and histories. They started making a history for themselves, with rum cake and a kiss.

Main Event: Callum

kylie-with-wrenchOf course, the main event happened at the Platts’ house. Sarah thought she could outsmart Callum. She tried to record him saying something incriminating. I doubt that Sarah could outsmart a kitchen cabinet. A struggle ensued, Kylie beaned Callum with a wrench, he died.

hole-in-platt-floorPanic until David came home and thought of a plan. Take Callum in his own car and dump him in the canal. Could have worked, except Tony and Todd came up with another plan – steal Callum’s car and torch it. That left the Platts with a body, no car – but a big hole in the garage floor. That’s where Callum went.

CBC’s ad for the episode showed Callum chasing David and Kylie sally-in-bathrobedown the street. I thought, gee, thanks for saving me the trouble of watching! So they got me.

On Friday, there were two sights I would never have thought possible. Both came out of what happened earlier, in the live episode.

Sally crossed roy-in-salon-chairthe street in a bathrobe, and did not care who saw her. And Roy entered Audrey’s salon, and sat as a client in her stylist chair.

 

Corrie Street May 10/15

Fire Eater

roy-with-curryLuke is feeling okay. Maria has dumped him, but he’s going to hang out with the guys. The night on the town with beer and curry got replaced with curry and a couple cans at the café due to Tyrone giving Roy a driving lesson. Still okay, Luke figures, even if the curry won’t be what he was looking forward to. Roy is “a korma kinda guy – mild, inoffensive,” he tells Gary.

thinking-it-is-something-coolRoy serves the meal while telling them the history of curry in the British Isles. He relates a funny moment in Vanity Fair, where Becky Sharp misguidedly eats a chili to cool her mouth after a spicy curry. Well, you had to be there, he realizes as Tyrone, Luke and Gary stare uncomprehendingly at him. He continues ladling the curry, saying he hadn’t made it quite as hot as the traditional recipe from Goa that he found had called for.

luke-and-gary-gasp-at-curryRoy and Tyrone on one side of the table talk and eat, savouring the flavours. On the other side, Gary and Luke eat, and look increasingly uncomfortable. Their eyes water and Luke begins pulling at his shirt. But he will not admit it’s too hot for him. He likes curry that blows your shirt off, he’d told Gary.

luke grimacesIt’s little moments like that I’ve looked for in Coronation Street lately. They are in short supply.

Sarah and Bethany are wearing on my last nerve, as they are on David’s. Carla and Nick cozying up to each other has been fun. But Erica’s return, and her news, will blow that fun out of the water. Sally and the wannabe Banksy is great, but so far is a-matter-of-honoursimilar to the sofa story. Increasingly loopy Jenny Bradley is causing fights everywhere. Maria getting a punch was great, just because. The enjoyment in that makes up for Sophie being right about Jenny even while she’s still irritatingly self-righteous.